ongoing investigation. so to say there are fireworks, i ll go back to that, is putting it fairly lightly. a lot of back and forth, not only between the defendants and their closing arguments, but the prosecution and their closing arguments as well. and, oh, to boot, by the way, the two to three to five minute closing arguments by the former president without permission from judge engoron. joining us now criminal defense attorney and msnbc legal analyst, danny cevallos, and former assistant attorney general for new york tristan snell, he led new york s prosecution of donald trump for defrauding trump university students and wrote a book about the chase. taking down trump, 12 rules for prosecuting donald trump by somebody who did it successfully. gentlemen, welcome. danny, i m going to ask you first, why would chris kise want donald trump to speak today? because i bet chris kise had no interest in having donald trump speak today. i think the client wanted to
job to hold trump accountable. that s what prosecutors and courts are for. president trump is still liable for everything he did while he was in office. didn t get away with anything, yet. we have a criminal justice system in this country. we have civil litigation. and former presidents are not immune from being accountable by either one. lisa rubin is a former litigator, known msnbc legal analyst. charles colbert prosecuted civil cases on behalf of the government. he s now a civil rights defense attorney. they both join me now, free to have you here. first, give me your first read on the central idea of this argument. you have to impeach and convict first argument as it appeared today, which i was not anticipating to be as central as it was. it s not the first line argument. the argument that they are making on presidential immunity starts with the overarching he s immune from everything because of the structure of the constitution and separation of powers principles. this was
you buy your mugshot mug. and you re out. bob just said this. and there s a reason. and it s a pretty messed up feature of the criminal justice system. the plane system. the whole weight of the pipeline works is through clean. i just gotta think and we will see, maybe not. but it does seem to me that that is a likely eventuality. and also, really a problem. and to your point. you don t want if you re donald trump, and you re trying to get people not to cooperate, you don t want her to go to court, right? and get a connection and say, kenneth chesebro, you re gonna go to jail in you do not want that to be shown to [inaudible] televised. that s the other piece of this, no matter who is on trial even if it s not trump, everybody is digesting. it i want to bring in joyce vance, an embassy msnbc legal analyst. joyce, we re talking about the likelihood that this number 19
presumed dead after a highly suspicious plane crash. the question embroiling the globe this morning, did vladimir putin get his revenge against yevgeny prigozhin? good morning, and thanks for joining us. it is 10:00 eastern. i m ana cabrera reporting from new york, and today we will see a former president surf renner at a county jail for the first time in history. there s no precedent for what will happen when donald trump turns himself in at this jail in fulton county later today. we expect he ll be treated the same as his fellow co-defendants, booked, fingerprinted, and photographed for a mug shot. trump is among ten left to surrender ahead of the deadline at noon tomorrow. nine others have already been booked, including the man once known as america s mayor. rudy giuliani. let s go to atlanta and nbc s blayne alexander. also with us, msnbc legal
this is illegal to me because there was so much of na. that. can you explain from a legal perspective what was out of lines? one of the things that jumps out to me is how kenneth which he has kenneth chesebro is telling saying one of the things this will accomplish is to buy additional time for pending litigation. we know on december 14th, the deadline to certify electors, there was no pending litigation, much less any litigation of any type until six minutes before that deadline in new mexico. new mexico is not among the states included here, and yet we know from paragraph 64 of the indictment, they eventually advanced the fake elector plot in new mexico as well. why is this memo being called the missing link for jack smith? you have a paper trail, the first memo they called the wisconsin memo in the indictment. there s clear language that says, look, just in case. this is just to preserve our options.