dana: thousands of unaccompanied children on the border. bill: the white house is saying these migrants when asked the question about it are just responding to a message of hope. you think it s a coincidence as soon as trump and his immigration were on the way out and biden and his stated policy were on the way that the historic surge at the border started? first of all one of the things i think is important we ve seen surges before. surges the end to respond to hope. and there was a significant hope for a more humane policy after four years of pent-up demand. bill: that was the answer. more in a moment. former secretary of state mike pompeo about the virus, border, china. first to kristin fisher live from the white house to begin our broadcast today. good morning, kristin. that sound bite that you played leading into me was quite significant. there you have president biden s coordinator for the southern border acknowledging that the new administration s policies