in contact with had knowledge of or played a role in 2016 election meddling. joining us now is anthony cormier. he s an investigative reporter for buzzfeed news, one of the authors of this new report today. mr. cormier, congratulations on this scoop. thanks for joining us tonight. thanks for having us. let me ask you about that last point first. fbi agents are telling you that cohen was in contact with individuals who themselves were involved in russia s 2016 election meddling. my question there is were they in contact about election meddling or were they talking about trump tower moss sxoe these just happened to be the same people who were messing with our election? i wish i knew. i don t. clearly if we did we would have had a totally different headline. what s still unclear to us is who these individuals are and what role they played in the potential interference. we don t know whether they re the individuals we named in our story, the folks that have already sort of come to li