never they never saw eye to eye again. they have been debating, and now they took their action against prigozhin, and i suspect it won t be the end of this. there will be more tensions between those that support wagner, including, by the way, some soldiers in the russian conventional forces and the leadership at the top. all right. if you can stand by, ambassador, i also want to bring in chief foreign correspondent richard engel joining us by phone. what do you know or what context can you put to this? reporter: well, at this stage, we really only know what the russian media are reporting. they re all reporting it consistently that there has been a plane crash. that s how they are describing it just as you were describing it, that a jet was traveling from moscow to st. petersburg and crashed less than 30 minutes after takeoff, according to the top news agency. and it does seem very
come out and respond? we have not seen exact statement out of the white house or state or any sort of reaction to what we have learned so far. yeah, you know, sandra, if i was going to respond to what i said, this is one of those we told you so. this just shows what kind of actor you see in putin who is going to take revenge on his enemies, he s very brutal about it. this was not a shoot down inadvertent. apparently going from moscow to st. petersburg over russian territory, shot down by a russian missile battery. that s not accidental. that was deliberately done and sending a very, very clear signal by putin and we would respond by saying it shows you what kind of individual putin is, we need to be cautious about trying to even talk to this guy, but the way he is. and i would just say this doesn t surprise me. this is what i would have expected from putin. john: lieutenant general keith kellogg, thanks for joining us. thanks for your thoughts on this. appreciate it. trey yingst ha
russia s been very fast with detail. apparently they ve already recovered four people from that crash. we have to keep in mind that crash site is north of oblast. a little about two-thirds of the way from moscow to st. petersburg. that s a pretty remote region. it s very difficult to conduct forensic work and sift through debris quickly. so information coming out very fast in all of this. so hard to really see what exactly happened. certainly right now i m sort of speaking to folks inside russia and some of them are saying that they believe that this plane was taken down. of course not that they ll say who was responsible for taking this plane down but people are saying they don t believe something like this can be or would be an accident, especially
kindly to those who threaten his power and that s part of the reason the questions are raised about whether or not this was ordered from the top but there will be a lot of investigation and speculation in the international community about what exactly took place. john raises an important point that when the russian air defense systems lock on to a target they have to receive confirmation, they are not just simply firing off trying to shoot things out of the sky. so the fact a business jet was clearly through russia s aviation agency on the flight logs was flying from the russian capital of moscow to st. petersburg indicates that someone somewhere knew that people were on board this jet, it was not an enemy plane, and that any sort of spin that you might hear initially from the kremlin should be taken with skepticism as we wait for any sort of statement from officials in moscow. sandra, john. sandra: trey yingst, thank you. we ll get back to you as we have more details. joining us by
tonight with a stellar panel, anja manuel author of this brave new world, executive director of the aspen security forum, and also with us tonight lord kim darroch, former uk ambassador to the united states and author of collateral damage, britain, europe and america in the age of trump. good evening. ten people killed in a privatejet that was flying from moscow to st. petersburg telling us prigozhin was on the manifest will the flight was covering seven passengers and three crew. it was said to have crashed northwest of moscow. these are the pictures. there are multiple videos on social media that appeared to show the jet crashing. in the tracking date, load doesn t show with the plane departed. it does show it climbing to an altitude of near 29,000 feet before the data shows that dropping suddenly ending up shows that dropping suddenly ending up at zero feet. eyewitnesses said they heard to live bank shortly before hand. while the cause of this crash is not clear this man