mueller. and how much does, that shannon, in your view, play into the president s i think you called it earlier in the hour a morning obsession that he has to get out of his system. it s simply not knowing. i mean, his lawyers do a good job, or at least they try to calm him down, to tell him everything s going to be okay, everything s going to be okay. you re fine here. but as each one of these new pieces come out and this new name today, sam patten, i was on the phone with rudy giuliani this morning when the headline came out. and i mentioned. i said oh, yeah, it looks like sam patten just had a guilty plea. rudy giuliani said oh, who is that? i don t remember. maybe he is at a different level, but he is someone close to constantine kilimnik who was a big fish, a russian oligarch in all of this. he is the type of person who could have been on the radar. like any lawyer, any defense lawyer, and the president has a team of them beyond just rudy giuliani, they try to know as much a