that coming from his grandso and then you think about wha took place on his property killing this young black man how intertwined are these tw things they are very important t understand, and they als highlight one of the frustrations of what it is t be a trial attorney. this is an example,, yasmin of when you can see something tha you probably may not be able t prove. his grandson can talk about th implications and impacts of hi watching certain media outlets and the effect that it had o him, and perhaps buildin racial - when it comes to building that into a, case of putting up for a jury in such a way that you be able to prosecute him for hate, crime there are all sort of evidentiary concerns that d not make this straightforward. it would be very, difficult if not altogether impossible to b able to get your grandson to testify at a trial because a lot of judges would no necessarily allow that testimony to come in, absent o the, defense this client is on
about jobs in the first half o the, right i knew they were gonna argue this, and i thought pretty clearly the supreme court wa gonna overturn roe and then, the opinion leaked and then the actual opinio came in, and i thought, and hoped, and i prayed that thi would be the sort of wake up call, shock to the system, political activation and it was and then, i just worried about the short attention span o society. like, really, just the way tha all things function in the new cycle, which is, like it s a story, and then it s not and it s like, oh, where did w end up on ukraine? where did we end up on that? obviously, your bodily autonom is different from that but, it wasn t necessarily t me baked in that it would be there in november, but for all the work that people put in. and, the fact that candidate continued to hammer on it, and didn t go away from it didn t go away from it, but also linked to the threats tha were - absolutely. liberties that s my point about the kids
flavor and things don t always just surprise you for the west. yes and everything you say is true but we also can t ignore the fact that we had dobbs that we had a, absolutely it was literally top tw issues for most voters and in addition to that, the electorate has changed and it has changed in profound an important way. and that doesn t make it the dominant party electric yet, but the kids are okay. yes the kids are okay but they re also the mos diverse. and when they show up, which they did in the midterms they ve also demonstrated with the future electorate look like let me just respond to that bob s point. because obviously, you can t talk about midterms without it and if you were to say, well what s the one factor that produces the surprise? i think that s the one factor. but, it also was the case, i think, to me, as i thought about jobs in the first half o the, right i knew they were gonna argue
for accountability and goo trouble. harry, my friend, thank you fo coming back to the show. your testimony helped open the january six committee s public hearings way back in the summe of 2021. you have since become a fixtur in the audience at the publi hearings that followed now that it is over, what ar your general reflections of th committee s work over the last year and a half? hey, katie, good to tal with you again i am at this moment where i am a little perplexed about wha to expect, now we have always been waiting fo the january six committee to announce the next meeting, the next referral. but, now that it is over it is like now we are just waiting o the justice department to do their job. but, you also have now that th justice department does no need the referrals from th