but you, of course, traveled the country with newt gingrich. right. on an education campaign. so i m hoping you can sort of help me see the other side of the story. joe is objective. i m not yet. but perhaps you can help me. well, i m very confused. president obama as joe and i have talked about said he asked newt gingrich and i to tour the country with the education secretary for education reform. the confusion is that we went to a lot of these poor communities, inner cities, that newt now claims such ignorance about. he says that these poor communities have no work the ethic. their parents don t go to work. the only monetary trade is illegal. those are the communities that he and i toured. was he saying that when you were there? no. that the only way these kids can make money is by doing something illegal? was he saying that with you? no. he was saluting them. we went on meet the press together and talked about how these kids needed an opportunity because look how w