know. how confident are you that eisenberg will cross over and say what is happening is wrong? will he break from the administration? that is so hard to predict. john dean was incredible in coming forward and also in his memory. he had the most phenomenal memory and had a detailed narrative before he knew there were tapes. and then he was corroborated by those tapes. so far in this administration, only the people who are career civil servants and career people what donald trump derides as the deep state are the people of moral courage, the people who are patriots coming forward and saying there is a threat to our national security and i m afraid for this country. and that is what i hope gets communicated to all americans when they testify in public and
so they even have the facts wrong in the smearing efforts. and i have no disagreement with people that might want to question his actions. that is a legitimate thing. but to question his integrity and to use ethnic slurs to do so, that is unamerican. you know, there is a story in the washington post today talking about lieutenant consider necolonel vindman saying that he testified that he received instruction from john eisenberg after white house lawyers learned july 29th that cia employee had anonymously raised concerns about the trump phone call and he was told by eisenberg to basically sit tight, be quiet about this. to your mind, what does that say about the extent to which the actions within this white house to cover up the july 25th phone
underscores very big paradox that trump and his defenders have. if there was nothing wrong in the call and now the new argument was that if there was a quid pro quo, for bno big deal, there wasn t anything wrong, why hide their actions. that is a very good question and maybe this coming week we ll find out more on the attempts to keep the phone call under wraps. this week, and i mention this week because we ll be hearing from a slew of more witnesses. you can see there on monday john icebeeisenber eisenberg, he is the national security council still adviser. michael ellis is national security legal adviser. it is to my mind kind of extraordinary and spectacular that these folks are going to go to the hill and testify, but
john dean is saying isn t true. and then you heard butterfield say there is tapes. and then we got the tapes and everything that john dean said was true. and now that i m mentioning john dean, i just have to defer to, you know, he was the white house counsel to nixon and he was definitely part of the cover june. he had a major role in curoveri up the information from the break into the white house and then he realized what was going on and he said no more and he came clean. i would say that eisenberg in trying to conceal national security council legal adviser. exactly. that he is john dean before john dean stopped being part of the coverup. because what he did in telling vindman to keep cquiet and putting the conversation in a secure vault that had no basis
for being there, there was nothing of national security in there, that is wrong. that is not only an ethical violation, he misperceives who his client is. his client is not the president of the united states. his client is the office of the president and the american people. and so that is an ethical violation. and probably part of a coverup. and we ve seen a lot of coverup in watergate, the coverup was considered worse than the crime. here the crime involves our national security and in fact world peace and world security. we walked away from helping to protect the ukranian people from russian invasion when we not we. when donald trump withheld the military aid congress had approved. and that is a danger that is really more serious than breaking into the dnc. let me ask you a quick question about eisenberg. you believe he is john dean before john dean became the i don t know dean thjohn dean tha