communications director hope hicks showed up foreclosed door testimony before the house judiciary committee. we could see from the transcript yesterday that hicks refused to answer 155 questions including really tough ones, like where was your office located in the west wing? now house judiciary chairman jerry nadler tells politico that he plans to use that transcript as a real life illustration of the white house stonewalling as they ask a court to force former white house counsel don mcgahn to testify. the chairman says, quote, it s one thing to tell the judge blanket immunity is not a right thing, it s another thing when a judge can see what that means in actuality and how absurd it is. if nadler could win that against don mcgahn, that would open up the door to testimony for more witnesses the white house has kept out of reach. there s one more aspect to keep an eye on. when it was first announced that hope hicks would testify, another interview with another trump insider was announ
former chief of staff to white house counsel don mcgahn. it turns out she was a big notetaker. her notes figure prominently in the mueller report like when she wrote about the president being, quote, in panic/chaos over the russia investigation or when she wondered whether it was, quote, the beginning of the end because she was worried that the decision to terminate comey and the manner in which it was carried out could be the end of the presidency. on monday annie donaldson s turn to testify before house judiciary comes up. will she show up and talk? if she doesn t, if she still stonewalls, does that give nadler even more fire power in the court battle ahead? joining us now, former u.s. attorney and msnbc contributor barbara mcquade. barbara, great to have you here in person. thank you for being with us. explain to me what this means. the house judiciary chairman jerry nadler is saying the transcript, the answer that were
thing. it s another thing when a judge can see what that means in actuality and how absurd it is. if nadler could win that against don mcgahn, that would open up testimony for more witnesses the white house has kept out of reach. there s one more aspect to keep an eye on. when it was first announced that hope hicks would testify, another interview with another trump insider was announced the same day, annie donaldson. it turns out she was a big notetaker. her notes figure prominently in the mueller report like when she wrote about the president being, quote, in panic/chaos over the russia investigation or when she wondered whether it was, quote, the beginning of the end because she was worried that the decision to terminate comey and the manner in which it was carried out could be the end of the presidency. on monday annie donaldson s chance to testify will show up. will she show up and talk?