slowly building back up, and what happened is there s also a area above this, plateau, logging permits were issued on that. there was a big pie-shaped, like a pizza pie, right above the slide, and there s people out there now saying that probably took about 25% of the rain water away. usually, the trees would soak it up. they don t know why the logging permits were issued and why after warnings from 2010 saying there s an eminent chance of a big slide, were all these people still allowed in this area. it s very troubling when you see all these facts as they are piling up. thanks so much, bill karins. to give you another perpspectiv of the devastation of the mudslide, the oso landslide brought something like three times the volume of mud as there is concrete in the hoover dam in one momentous cascade, creating a one-square-mile path of discussion. i want to bring in geologist