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Transcripts for CNN Whos Talking to Chris Wallace 20240604 00:11:00

into account. so have i changed? of course. i hope i ve grown. i hope i m more sophisticated understanding what works in what circumstance. you have to look at each case and the tool kit that exists and the tool kit is much more challenging today than it was then. i want to examine two cases. one where the u.s. did intervene and one where it didn t and see the less son lessons from those. first of all, the decision to intervene in libya s civil war in 2011, you were a member of the obama national security counsel at the time. you were one of the strongest voices who persuaded him to join with other countries to stop omar gaddafi. i asked about libya near the end of his presidency. take a look. worst mistake? probably failing to plan for the day after what i think was the right thing to do in

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Transcripts for CNN Whos Talking to Chris Wallace 20240604 00:12:00

intervening in libya. after we intervened in libya and stopped the civil war and took down omar gaddafi, rival militias fought for years and isis set up an operation in libya and by the end of his presidency, obama said the libya mission didn t work. do you agree with that? well, it succeeded in the short term in stopping gaddafi from carrying out his threat to exterminate in his own words the rap rats, the opposition. there is no question the chaos that ensued the fracturing, the inability for the interim authorities and the perennial authorities and he elected government to consolidate, you know, security over the country, that has made life incredibly difficult for the people of libya.

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Transcripts for CNN CNN Tonight 20240604 01:43:00

from the human rights council. it s a moment so rare you see the delegates recording the vote tally on their cell phones. the russian delegate, of course, proceeded to claim that russia was actually quitting the council, which as the ukrainian ambassador pointed out is like trying to say, you can t fire me, i quit. for context, the only other country suspended by the united nations human rights council was libya in 2011 after omar gaddafi launched that brutal crackdown on his own people. let s bring in our correspondent. what is the impact of today s vote, if any? it will bring some relief from the white house s perspective because it robs russia of an incredible powerful bully pulpit. and we were already starting to see that with the threats russia was making. if you don t vote in the way in fact if you even abstain, let alone vote against us, there will be consequences.

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