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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:12:00

a walker and a cane? both. and a knee brace. still flooded. he was toting an oxygen tank as well. as chuck fumbled his way inside, nate and his agents were waiting. busted. i interviewed charles. we pulled him into an office. and then martha ann was being questioned by another va agent and social security administration. martha ann and chuck kaczmarczyk had been found out. chuck was no decorated hero. he was never in combat. no silver stars. no purple hearts. those ribbons, all fake. and martha, had never walked the hallways of the pentagon as a marine colonel, much less present at a 9/11 attack, or flew on air force two. they confessed to perpetuating

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 05:28:00

and then, in the weeks and months after bob s death, as suspicions dissipated like the mist in the surrounding hills, chuck could once again walk with his head held high. when we did the veterans parade and knoxville, they put him on the top because he was the most highly decorated after the awful tragedy of bob s death, chuck got on with his life again and said goodbye to his dear friend, and comforted bob s widow, martha anne. oh boy. coming up, he s lost his best friend, she lost her husband. two grieving friends, a growing feeling. it was like somebody had just dropped a bomb on my head. a cruise ship courtship? i looked at her and said, are you and chuck together? when dateline continues. when dateline continues. feeling better? on top of the worlddddd!!! before advil. advil targets pain at the source of inflammation.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 05:47:00

association members were so impressed with the couple, that chuck was promoted to the board, he and martha traveled representing and making a mascot. there was time for fun as well. they reveled in the newfound happiness. they enjoyed the new responsibilities and of course also decided to live a little. just under nowhere, they said, we would certainly like to have an rv. my wife says, well my boss is selling a beautiful rv. of course they went and looked at the rv, they liked it a lot. so, they made him an offer. right next to the rv, chuck noticed a garage to anniversary edition corvette. tempting, we even though he had a mercedes convertible already. i said, i like corvette as well. show me that. next thing you know, they bought the corvette as well. pretty soon they were parading nor knew cars for

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:33:00

estate. the warning seemed especially harsh. i didn t know bob mcclancy. most fathers would not write something that cruel to their own daughter. i just realized, this is not adding up. it just was very, very suspicious. bob sister kathy thought it was fishy too. i know wasn t bobby s will. even said that to my daughters. uncle bobby would never put that in here. no, never. nate concluded that marks the end, the sole beneficiary forged the will. it came from martha ann? yes, the will in particular ended up being a major part of the investigation. and then, they discovered a curious date or dates. martha ends wedding to chuck. if you wait until after you turn 57 and remarried then, you can keep the benefits for the rest of your life. she ended up marrying chuck in las vegas nevada one day after her 57th birthday, which

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 05:24:00

it will make you feel close to a person? it did. then he tried, in vain, to ease martha anne s grief. i will talk about fun things we did with bob. that wouldn t happen anymore. then i would start balling, then she would start falling with me. to make it even worse, bob s best friend chuck had been taking away by sheriff s deputies. debbie watched as martha anne trying to deal with her own sorrow as she planned her husband s funeral, anxious at the same time for her friend, that the small town cops had the wrong idea about chuck. i said, you know, this was bob s best buddy. you are grieving for bob, now you have to take care of chuck. a tough situation. it was about to get tougher. courtesy of the sheriff deputy travis jones. something strange here, he thought. he in the other detectives. they held chuck for questioning.

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