minister told reuters he d spoken to several trump advisers and lawmakers since arriving in washington monday, and have been told we don t have to take each word that mr. trump said publicly literally. joined by james, national correspondent for the atlantic and molly o toole at foreign policy. a.p. reporting general michael flynn was offered national security adviser. flynn is a fairly controversial figure. i want to put up a tweet from general flynn. fear of muslims is rational. please forward this to others. the truth fears no questions. molly, what does this mean? this naming of flynn? it s not surprising, flynn s name has been at the top of that list for national security adviser for some time. in part because he would require a waiver in order to potentially be considered for secretary of defense because he hasn t been a civilian for seven years. he was a very well-respected figure when he was the pentagon s top spy chief for the defense intelligence agency. since then,
pursue them on the ground. meanwhile, president obama spoke this week at the pentagon at the national counterterrorism center and at the white house to make the case that we are already fighting the best war we can against the so-called islamic state. we re going to defeat isis. and we re going to do so by systemically squeezing them, cutting off their supply lines, cutting off their financing, taking out their leadership, taking out their force, taking out their infrastructure. and joining me now is malcolm nance, executive director of the terrorism asymmetrics project and defeating isis who they are, how they fight, what they believe. hillary mann leave receipt, former state department and white house staffer who has served in u.s. embassies across the middle east. the editor and publisher of the nation magazine. and molly o toole, politics reporter for defense one.
san bernardino attackers, all these policies emerged so quickly. sort of the inception debate reignited again. all this legislation introduced. the fbi director said we don t even know they used encrypted methods. san bernardino is important because there s no evidence, no even hint of it, there was a problem with inkipencryption, t problem is the youtube videos of anwr all awlaki they downloaded and listened to. we have an organization that s makes theatrical-style movies and we re still attempting to figure out if we can use encryption. thanks very much to malcolm nance and molly o toole, really appreciate it. up next, the trouble with what s in the water. with passion. but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that s why i have the spark cash card from capital one. i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy for my studio.
also made that point in recent weeks a number of mid and upper level isis leaders taken out in a similar way to which emwazi was they said. enest and others pointed out to the operation in sinjar in iraq to take the town from isis which is successful they say and how the strategy is working and as you know, kate, widely criticized being ineffective, incremental and not getting the job done. ron allen at the white house, thanks so much. joining me now, fellow and contributing editor at the atlantic graham wood and politics reporter at defense one, molly o toole, as well. graham, you wrote an article that s gotten attention. a piece about what isis really wants. it s been passed around widely. what is it that they want? are they achieving their goals? well, one thing they want to do is to terrify and infur rate.
missions, the war against islamic state has been fought primarily from the air, and with very with less, much less of a u.s. presence on the ground but it s somewhat disingenuous for a way for the president to suggest this isn t a change in strategy at all. we have explicit statements from the president as recently as 2013, more recently than that, that he would not put any u.s. boots on the ground in syria. so there s a bit of disingenuousness there as well in suggest that this isn t a shift even for president obama. molly o toole, thanks for joining us tonight. thank you. coming up next, what jeb bush said about abraham lincoln s beard. don t miss that. it s more than the cloud. it s security - and flexibility. it s where great ideas and vital data are stored. with centurylink you get advanced technology solutions