so is it these air defense systems, the s-300? is that what he s talking about? reporter: yeah, he s talking about something much bigger than shoulder mounted javelins. as we were driving through bucha and irpin, we saw the recommend remnants of javelins that we know have been so successful against tanks. we have seen those destroy tanks that have been ruined because of am bushes. but he did say he is giving a list to nato members. he has given specific supply orders. aircraft, armored vehicles, and additional air defense missiles. even with this strategic win in kyiv, russia is still the better supplied, bigger, larger army and they re going to need some bigger help. molly, i want to let you go. it s obviously disconcerting for
this is not an easy fight they are involved in. how do you define territorial integrity? well, those are questions we have as well. on the ground in ukraine, the carnage continues. mariupol is the target of intense shelling. as many as 5,000 people have been killed since the war began and the city has been absolutely destroyed. just ask yourself, look at what we ve discovered in bucha after the russians have left. i think we re all bracing ourselves for what we re going to learn in mariupol when we truly have a full picture there. i m joined by molly hunter in kyiv for us, courtney kube at the pentagon, and our guest today, the former u.s. ambassador to ukraine, now a senior director of the eurasia center. molly, yesterday right at this time i asked you does it feel as if the russians have left and you re like, yeah, well, i m still hearing stuff. literally as i m asking you this question, i think i m hearing it. so there s still some
or we hope the cyberattacks aren t going to take place but we re going to warn you about them any way on the chance that they do and they could head this off. so clearly a strategy that the administration is just continued to double down on because they believe it has been effective so far. but as you note, in the months ahead, as this invasion and this war continues, it is something that officials will have to grapple with from a messaging standpoint as well. that is right. the risk of being wrong here, we are who we are and one mistake could get weaponized in a direction that maybe messes with european unity. thank you. let me mover over to molly hunter in kyiv for us. and let me just start with this. what, if all russian troops are gone now, can you feel it in can you tell being in kyiv right now? i keep looking off camera and apologize because we re just