Crude carnage im joined by my guest was me in beirut hes a professor of economics and International Affairs in irvine we have pai and he is an independent economic and geo political analyst as well as a former commodities trader and in toronto we Cross Alexandre Bruno he is an analyst at gulf state analytics sorry gentlemen crosslike rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate pilot may go to you 1st in irvine because you got up early as for this program here all right it all happened quite quickly and a lot of analysts werent too surprised by the deal that the russians and the saudis had collapsed. The russians didnt go along with what the saudis wanted to do and the saudis reacted and now we have carnage on the oil markets here what is saudi arabias gambit here because you know in the if you look at its budgetary constraints it can afford to have low oil for a very long time and we throw in the coronavirus that is also hurting crude demand all