made and it is keeping up with population growth. so, it matters for november, people are going to have an overall sense of whether things are better or staying the same, if it stays the same, romney has a good shot to win and if it is getting better, president obama will be re-elected. neil: but isn t the argument the obama folk use, larry, that it is not melting down like it was. and steady but slow improvement beats torpedoing, that is the requested of their argument. guest: well, that makes sense from their point of view. but, voters vote this way: they look at last four years. they ask that question that we cite from ronald reagan all the time, are you better off today than you were four years ago. but they look forward. and they are saying, do we think this performance merits another four years? do we want to take a chance
getting checks from the government? no, that is not the american dream. neil: okay, you can . i am just telling you. guest: they have done a good job of demonizing republican men. mitt romney, they painted him as antiwomen which is absurd and they have a very helpful media painting that story line for them. so, the republicans have a challenge. they are really the ones who have empowered women. richard nixon, title nine but you do not hear about that. neil: no, no, you never do. guest: thank you. neil: you are always great. the president pushing lower student loan rates to graduates and the c.e.o. says try pushing jobs, instead, and the g.s.a. guy may be out of the hot tub but he is still in the hot water. so why are taxpayers still pay so why are taxpayers still pay his salary?
somebody with a business background can deliver a better economy? that is what romney is hoping. so we will see can two visions will predominate in the fall. the numbers will determine. the real numbers. not spun numbers. the real numbers that come out from tq neil: what about just if it is a handle at 7.9 percent on unemployment what it was when the president took office. now, all the an better reagans and anomalies you discuss still standing it would be what it was when he came in. but, way down from what it was. how will that go down? guest: well, the context matters. did the number fall in the end if it goes below eight and in the 7th, did the number fall down because real jobs were being created and people were being added to the workforce? or, did the number go down because people simply got
neil: mitt romney versus president obama looking at same job spirit with different spin and that spin could decide what wins in november. larry, it is lard to spin it positively if you are a president but it is not a slam dunk spinning this all that negatively if you are romney. steady growth beats no growth. how does it factor out? guest: it is in the gray area. it is not good news. i cannot imagine the white house was pleased this morning when they saw the number of jobs actually added. they planned for a lot more and they hoped for a lot more, incredibly, some committeives are saying that if you look at the entire obama administration you only had about as many jobs added as were lost during the administration, that is, no additional progress has been