i m going to take the crown off for now. i don t think i can sit straight enough. but talk to me a little bit. i mean, you are a woman who has had an extraordinary professional career and yet, i can say, but you re miss america 1990. there s something about that that is also kind of inherent in who you are. tell me something about who you are. or does it? yes, it does tell you something about who i am. i think you can t ignore that the miss america pageant is, indeed, a pageant, although i believe it s different than all the other systems out there. it s the only one that rewards talent awards, intelligence awards, commitment to community, service, and you said it as if it were our ledge, but it is the largest source of scholarships for women in the world. that s why i got in it. i was not a pageant girl. i grew up picking scabs, trying to figure out what was around there, because i was interested in science. it was a way for me to get to my goal. it was a means to an end. and by and
symbol and the pageant s ludicrous standards that we are conditioned to take seriously. the protesters hung the longtime posts of the pageant burnt parts in effigy and filled a trash can with symbols of feminism oppression, copies of the lady s home journal, high heels, and bras. it was once of the first events to bring attention to the nascent s women, and it was also the myth of the bra-burning feminis feminists. they couldn t get a burning permit from the city, though. joining me now, debbie turner bell, miss america 1990. thank you! chloe angel still got it! chloe angel, hillary levy freeman, who is a harvard sociologist, and author of playing to win, raising children in a competitive culture, and of course, soledad o brien, ceo of starfish media.