he never mentioned it. he says he did mention it to you. no, he did not. that s a lie. reporter: catherine, your ex-us, jeff hawkins, said that you have a heart of gold and you stuck with him through trying times of scientology. whoa, he didn t have any trying times of scientology. it was the best time of his life. reporter: she says jeff hawkins never said a thing to her about being hit. did you tell anyone about this? did you complain about it? no. you don t do that when you re inside the base, you don t do that. reporter: why? well, if you go against miscav vin miscavige, if you say anything or you do anything or you report on miscavige, you re instantly off the base. reporter: what does that mean to be off the base? rehabilitation project force or sent to a remote location or sent to africa or australia. you re just gotten rid of. reporter: marty rathbun said