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control of federal land. joining us is one of those lawmakers, utah state representative and one of the organizers of a summit that took place last weekend. ken ivory joins us today from salt lake city. ken, good morning to you. good morning, steve. before this cattle battle, you personally had been working for a couple of years to try to get under state control a lot of the land currently owned by the federal government. why is that, ken? we had this really radical idea, steve, that the federal government ought to honor to the western states the very same statehood promise it kept with all states east ofç colorado. we learned in the statehood agreements that the federal government made the exact same promises at statehood to nebraska, north dakota, south dakota, louisiana, alabama that they made to the western states to transfer that land after statehood. we have about 150 trillion dollars in mineral value locked up in these federally controlled lands and yet, steve, in our st