move back in and pick up life like it was. and the tactics deployed by russia in bucha have been deployed for even longer in mariupol and other parts of the country. i know many ukrainians fear that the scale of civilian slaughter will be even greater. what are you picking up in the country about what people are bracing for as they re able to assess other areas? i mean, look, i think a lot of people are very concerned that at what people saw, what we re seeing is going to be repeated over and over and over again as ukrainian troops and police go into these towns that were occupied by russians for many weeks and start clearing them. it s going to be a long process. even when we were in bucha the other day, there was a mine