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Transcripts for BBCNEWS Newsday 20240604 00:20:00

the risk of accidental crisis, escalation, conflict and war over the next seven years. i do hope the two sides are reading that or if they haven t already, reading it soon, kevin. just away from the us china relations for now, talking about a subject that has dominated headlines back at home where you re from in australia, i think i would be remiss not to address this. you know, we have the former prime minister, scott morrison, in the headlines this week because of the fact that he secretly assigned himself all of these different ministerial positions. what do you make of that? do you think you should resign as mp? look, i will leave this to prime minister albanese, my successor as australia s labor prime minister of australia, and he is seeking to assemble all the facts as to what transpired, how manyjoint portfolios the prime minister secretly assigned himself in the past, etc. but the bottom line this is not just politically odd. in australia s 120 years plus of federated political

Transcripts for BBCNEWS Dateline London 20240604 02:40:00

international law in- australia is not adhered to. and they then began to turnj back the boats, to tow them back to indonesia. they put them in orangel lifeboats and said, it s up to you if you get back safely. they would be given enough fuel to make it to indonesia. - so that s ultimately in australia s case i what stopped the boats. so in the end, international law didn t count for anything because they were signatories to all these conventions but they decided, for their domestic political reasons, that was going to be. but it s fair to say, as you said, the policy worked in its own terms. absolutely. it stopped people coming, it made it so unpleasant, the chances of ever getting to australia. i think this is an - important distinction. deterrence didn t - completely stop boats. there is lots of research i and statistics to show this, because even after labor. unwound the pacific solution then tried to reinstate it, that still never - stopped the boats. it was messaging and campaign

Transcripts for BBCNEWS Dateline London 20240604 01:39:00

centres, first on shore, . but then under the pacific solution, detention centres - on nauru and papua new guinea. now that did pretty much stop, slow the boat to minimal- numbers, not completely. in 2007, the labour party went to the election and won saying i we are going to unwind thisl inhumane, immoral system. and they did. and the boats came back with ferocity. i and this arguably killed i their re election chances two elections later. because when the boatsj came back with ferocity, we had this spectacle i of people dying at sea. and the courts. the labour government came up with its own refugee swap plan. with malaysia, in 2013, - but the high court knocked it down. but that enabled the - conservative government in australia, when it won . power, to essentially rip up all international law. international law in- australia is not adhered to. and they then began to turnj back the boats, to tow them back to indonesia.

Transcripts for BBCNEWS BBC News 20240604 19:12:00

themselves, is this necessary at this point in time? themselves, is this necessary at this point in time? they queen of course send this point in time? they queen of course send her this point in time? they queen of course send her warmest - this point in time? they queen of course send her warmest wishesl this point in time? they queen of. course send her warmest wishes to barbados when they became independent from her. but the country chose tuesday as part of the commonwealth. what does being part of the commonwealth gives you a country like barbados, and practical terms? in country like barbados, and practical terms? , , terms? in practicalterms, iwill seak terms? in practicalterms, iwill speak specifically terms? in practicalterms, iwill speak specifically about - terms? in practicalterms, iwill speak specifically about small l speak specifically about small island states. 32 of the 54 members of the commonwealth nations are small states. and for barbados and other small cou

Transcripts for BBCNEWS Dateline London 20240604 18:40:00

i mean, if meghan and harry had gone to the caribbean, i can guarantee you that the reception would have been very different l because they kind of- understand, she understands. because it s part of her own heritage. and it wouldn t have i been so embarrassing that some of the tone deaf interactions. . this is a good point to bring up because we are, as i said, potentially at the point of transition and the royal family must know this. there s a danger that at this point, perhaps unlikely at the moment, the uk says actually we don t want to carry on with the monarchy, but certainly other parts of the world are doing it. we ve got anthony albanese, the new prime minister in australia, and it was in the way back into pole position in the run up to election that they would support transition a republic. we have those caribbean islands, caribbean nations, some

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