playing out in culture right now. i mean, what i hope is that if the earth is not an ashen cinder within a year, that hundreds of years from now, cultural historians and anthropologists and archaeologists will watch hgtv and then explain back to me what happened. no, like what it meant. because people do passionately love it. but i can t pinpoint exactly what it is other than the comfort. it s fantasy, right. that part of it. that you can have that happen. and there s a bloomberg piece on it. because of the political situation it was sort of escapism. there was another thing that i felt had a breakout year in 2016 which is podcasts. no, seriously. serial was a sort of breakout in 2015 that serial first came out or 2014. um, yeah. 2014. this is when the medium really exploded. there s a millionifferent genres. i started listening to crime town, about providence, rhode island. so good. so goodp which i spent four