that s fairly predictable in this conflict. the other thing is that you re going to have a much increased refugee flow. you ve already got 2 million refugees outside the country, 1 million of them children. and that s just going to get a lot worse. all of this we saw during the kosovo war. general marks, you ve been to battle. going into battle, do you ever do you always believe it could be much worse than anticipated? anderson, that s the only contemplation you make if you re worth anything and you re a military planner. there is never a guaranty that the outcome is going to look like anything you ve drawn up. we ve got to leave it there. all of this comes as the obama administration is in the thick of a full court press behind closed doors for military action in syria. just days left to make their case before next week s votes in the house and the senate and the
washington on these issues to say 2,000, 4,000, 10,000. that s not the right way to go about it. as a military planner you determine what it is that we have to do, how many advisers you need, what kind of military assistance group do you need, and then you determine what those numbers are. there s a series of decisions, all of which the president and the vice president have overruled our military leaders and their advice and counsel, which is the president s right to do. but each time i believe that it has ensured the risk of failure. nbc s amon mul hachlt din joins me in studio. uniquely. it s so nice to have you stateside. thanks for joining us. who s right here in terms of troop numbers? based on your practical assessment of what s going on there? well, that s a million-dollar question. i think it really begins with what the objectives are. when you hear the military assessment as we ve heard from general allen and others, certainly it s several thousands
to hit the accelerator towards these nuclear programs. and develop nuclear weapons. until you looked a lot into this, mark. we are getting that news while this conflict is playing out as well. how do you see this coming together? is this just a huge distraction? ict use that term because people are dying. but a distraction from the focus that should be a ron? [talking over each other] if you are an israeli military planner and you are planning a strike, you have to go in and clean out iranian support terrorists like hamas and hezbollah. in the broader context, the israeli military is trying to go in there and strike a blow at iranian terrorists in the city of gaza. they know that in a month or year or so, they may be hitting iran s facilities and they could be facing an onslaught sometime
it is actually exposed sources and methods that tells people what we are capable of doing, maybe with another great military planner, but, fear of the unknown and uncertainty of your enemy is a more powerful weapon than knowing what they can do were the fear and uncertainty and doubt and our ability to strike fear is they do not know when we are coming and when it is happening and we do not make appointments now they know what we target asking doing. i bring it back around, they took out the sites but the point is the people we are trying to influence are not on the internet in that region. trace: morgan, thank you, sir. pakistan has sentenced the man who helped the united states find osama bin laden to three decades in prison but a powerful republican wants do necessity if the white house did enough to protect him and the feds deported her to colombia, a 15-year-old girl, remember this story? she got pregnant down there and had to live on streets and she
do you see a clearly defined mission? obama said gadhafi needs stop shooting at people, get out of the towns he took in the east and stop the violence. that s how the president said. they re saying he needs to stifle gadhafi so the opposition can march to tripoli and topple the regime. so before anything has happened, you seem to have a difference of opinion. no, i don t see a clear mission. i think what you have is a bit of confusion. if you read the u.n. resolution, i think it s 1973, there s a lot of things in there that as a military planner i could take and say here are some options you could use. but there is no clear leadership in all of this. i think the united states is hesitant to lead. we could lead but not be alone if we re going to do it. as you know, i ve worried about the u.s. getting involved in a third fight in the middle east. but if we re going to do it,