On this programme before, but this is the first time that youre talking to us since you stepped down from your role as the uns humanitarian Chief Injune this year. Response that we will be facing a situation where people will drift fast it always is fast, its viral with famine into a situation where we cant see whats going on. The good thing about ethiopia, as you remember, was we could see what was happening and it attacked our consciences. Its not happening in sudan. Butjust to be clear, what ethiopia resulted in, it was A Million deaths from famine. So, you are saying that sudan could cause more than A Million deaths from famine . Yes. Yes, of course. And i know its very difficult to comprehend that because we dont really understand famine and we understand it probably less now in many ways than we did then when it was a very important subject of study and response. But to manage the response to famine in the middle of a war where we dont have access journalists, crucially, are not
Martin griffiths, welcome to hardtalk. Thank you very much. Thank you for having me. Now, you ve been in that seat on this programme before, but this is the first time that you re talking to us since you stepped down from your role as the un s humanitarian chief injune this year. You have greater liberty, essentially, now to tell us what you think about the situations that you ve seen. May we begin in sudan, which is just one of the crises that you ve dealt with in recent times? it s a civil war that in the last 18 months has put an extraordinary 25 million people in need of support and struggling to survive. You said recently that you thought sudan could be worse than ethiopia in the 1980s. What did you mean? well, sudan is the first place now where famine has been formally declared, as you know, the first place since 2017, because there s 25 million people in need, and we don t know precisely, because of the lack of access to these people, how much in need they are. We think that the
A few afternoon showers. Temperatures just around 10 degrees in aberdeen. 10 as well for stornoway. Further southwards, were around 1a to 18 celsius. Now, the middle part of the week sees an area of low Pressure Move in off the atlantic, bringing more heavy rain, particularly targeted on england and wales. Once thats cleared through, well, then we start to get some colder air moving right the way across the country. And so for wednesday, its kind of a day where we will see rain developing from the west, so turning wet across wales, southern and western areas of england through the day. Probably a fair amount of Dry Weatherfurther northwards with some sunshine, a few showers in the forecast for Northern Areas of scotland, but it will continue to get colder across those Northern Areas. And then as we head into Wednesday Night and thursday, The Rain continues to drive its way northwards and eastwards, covering most parts of england and wales with some heavy downpours. The colder air conti
Martin griffiths, welcome to hardtalk. Thank you very much. Thank you for having me. Now, you ve been in that seat on this programme before, but this is the first time that you re talking to us since you stepped down from your role as the un s humanitarian chief injune this year. You have greater liberty, essentially, now to tell us what you think about the situations that you ve seen. May we begin in sudan, which is just one of the crises that you ve dealt with in recent times? it s a civil war that in the last 18 months has put an extraordinary 25 million people in need of support and struggling to survive. You said recently that you thought sudan could be worse than ethiopia in the 1980s. What did you mean? well, sudan is the first place now where famine has been formally declared, as you know, the first place since 2017, because there s 25 million people in need, and we don t know precisely, because of the lack of access to these people, how much in need they are. We think that the