cooperation? absolutely, i do. we concluded that during the impeachment trial, the evidence is overwhelming that then president trump, he incited the people to come, when they came he pretty much told them to come down to the capitol and stop the counting. we unearthed so much evidence just in the impeachment trial, but the more evidence we can get, the better, and surely, vice president pence would be a critical witness to talk about in conversations that he might have had with the president. i think it s very disturbing, i read the times article, too, and i was very disturbed to see that he is now maybe getting cold feet because of this political ambitions. this just shows to me that donald trump has an uncanny and very, very disturbing control over the republican party. vice president pence needs to keep the same gumption that he had when he came over to the
we look forward to continuing the cooperation that we ve had with members of former vice president s team and look forward as well to his cooperation. what are you hearing about how this might play out, gloria? can you tell the committee wants to hear from mike pence? how many people from that committee have we heard calling mike pence a hero. you know, they clearly want to have him come in voluntarily. i don t think it s in the cards that they would ever subpoena a former sitting vice president. they d like to see him face to face. at this point we don t know when or if that would happen. it s been suggested to me that perhaps mike pence could answer written questions, who knows if they would even offer that as a possibility. didn t go so well with mueller when he had president trump answering written questions. clearly, mike pence is so key to their investigation.
people familiar with pence s thinking that he is increasingly disillusioned with the idea of voluntary cooperation. how important do you think pence s testimony will be? i think former vice president s pence s testimony would be very critical in the investigation, because after all, he was the one that was certifying the vote. he was also the one that the insurrectionists were threatening to hang. so i think that it would be really critical to have information from him. and also from his senior staff, from his chief and others, about what he had, the conversations he had had with the president before that, and what was expected that he was going to do, and what he thought of it, and ultimately, why he decided to go ahead and certify the results. do you think there is a case against donald trump without mike pence s testimony and
232, and the nays are 197, and the resolution is adopted, without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid upon the table. there was one year ago this week, the house of representatives, impeached president donald trump, a second time, for inciting the deadly insurrection at the u.s. capitol. this morning the new york times now reports that the house select committee investigating the attack is engaged in, is engaged in what could potentially be the most important negotiations of the investigations so far. trying to secure testimony from former vice president mike pence. joining me right now is democratic congresswoman diana degat who served as one of the impeachment managers who laid out the case against donald trump. thanks for joining us. liz cheney called mike pence a hero last week for what he did on january 6th and looking forward for him cooperating with this investigation. yet the times is now citing
that is just in the last day, donald trump attacked a fellow republican, over simply saying the facts that donald trump lost the election and the election was not widespread fraud that could have changed the election. i just caught up with mike moments ago, and i asked him about this, and he made clear that he said this because he wants to restore faith in voter s view of the electoral process. he believes the rhetoric here is important. so both sides dealing with their own issues here, but as the president goes to georgia and wants to get his big bill passed, that appears increasingly doubtful, amid resistance within his own party. so interesting. all right, thank you so much. while the center of the universe, hen it comes to voting rights and the fight for voting protections returns to georgia again today. we will continue to follow that. all right, so will former vice president mike pence provide testimony to congressional investigators looking into the insurrection? i m going t