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MSNBC Morning Joe July 7, 2024

pat cipollone will sit down for a deposition with the january 6th committee tomorrow. will he help connect the dots? and the georgia prosecutor makes it clear if her investigation uncovers crimes committed by former president trump, he will be held accountable. we ll have her exclusive interview with nbc news. plus, two former fbi directors spurned by trump get swept up in highly invasive and rare tax audits that are supposed to be random. targeted? the odds on that daily double pretty extraordinary, really, for that s a coincidence. yeah, it was a special audit that very few americans got. but somehow, somehow, right after donald trump was upset with james comey and mccabe, both of them hit the daily double, the odds, pretty extraordinary. we ll be talking to michael schmidt who broke that story, willie. that s a tough exacta, even for the two of us. i think the odds are something like 1 in 20,000, to be audited that way. purely by coincidence, the two of the

MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 11:06:00

of support in the republican party. but there s a line in great britain. remains to be seen if there is one here. yeah. it does remain. the thing is, though, make no mistake of it, and i can only report about the republicans i talk to off the record, as well as friends and acquaintances, there is a growing exhaustion, mika, with having to defend donald trump, when the alternative is not joe biden or nancy pelosi. instead, would be ron desantis. right. glenn youngkin or somebody educational. yeah. so, suddenly, an exhaustion with the committee, one trumper after another trumper talking about his heinous behavior, un-american behavior, unpatriotic behavior, in the words of cassidy hutchinson. then in georgia, where prosecutors investigating donald trump.

MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 10:35:00

they told me. scared of maybe some louder noises, like when there was fireworks, that scared me. i m still scared of, like, big noises, so police sirens and stuff. i probably am not going to go to any more parades. i feel scared at now parades, thinking about this would happen again. reporter: mika, they told me that their dad grabbed them screaming, run! they had to hide inside a local business. they say that they re still getting stomachaches at night. they re having a hard time sleeping. you heard them say there, they don t want to go to a parade ever again. these are the kinds of stories that we re hearing over and over and over again. imagine being a parent, having to help your child cope with something like this, a tragedy you went through with them. it is just unbelievable to hear

MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 10:45:00

so i don t think there is anything in the timing that s wrong here. i think part of it is, number one, as youngkin fans across the country to stump for republicans on the 2022 ballot, does he really take to it the way he took to the campaign trail in virginia? does he like it? does he want to do it? if he wants to do it, he can cede his campaign with tens of millions of his own money. the second thing is, and it is interesting, joe and mika, a lot of youngkin supporters believe his best path to the presidency through a republican primary is a republican primary in which trump runs. the thinking goes here, trump will box out anybody else the that wants to be like him, a ron desantis, a mike pompeo, anybody else. then youngkin gets a very fresh contrast and is the new, fresh face leader option for republicans as they pick their next presidential nominee. in a race without donald trump, they can have a trump-like kand

MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 10:54:00

that s because trump is either good at compartmentalizing or does not care. does he look at this and say he cannot win? i don t know he necessarily looks at it that way. he looks at an incumbent president who currently isn t doing too great in the polls. you know, then, naturally, you re going to have some buyer s remorse amongst some republican voters who voted for biden because they were exhausted with trump, but maybe now they re looking at inflation and other matters and saying, gee, well, maybe his mean tweets weren t so bad. and trump will selectively look at things that he wants to look at. you know, the polls that show him ahead he promotes, right? the polls that show him losing, well, those are fake news and manipulated by people like you and me because we don t like him. so i don t think it is 50/50 he is going to run, but i do think that trump doesn t necessarily took at this and say, i have no hope. you know, all it take it is a little hope and a little desire and someb

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