preferably from bakhmut, which we re seeing right now. that might be a good start. the real element here, the proof in the pudding will be will the russians allow a cease fire? that would be the key elements. i don t believe it until i see something concrete on the ground in ukraine and we haven t seen that yet. this week we learned some nato allies are sending the first fighter jets to ukraine. how does that change the calculus of the war? reporter: so this is very interesting. you ve got both poland and slovakia offering jets to the ukrainians. these are all mig-29s that have been in the inventory of both countries since their days in the war saw pact. once this comes to fruition, once they send the jets, that could make at least a bit of a tactical difference. one thing to keep in mind is that the air defense systems of both russia and ukraine have been pretty effective in knocking airplanes out of the sky. we ve looked at some of the
we re paying three, four, five times more than western europe combined that has to stop. poland bake the first nato member and sent war planes to ukraine. that s a good start. let them send another 10,000 of them if they have them. joe biden stopped this numerous times. for the first time, it will be mig 29s handed over in the next few days. they re going to need more than four. europe, you have to step up, protect your continent financially, militarily and then when you do your part, we the people of the united states will gladly help you finally that means win and defeat putin and evil in our time. the only way to stop a bully in his tracks is to make him fear you. putin needs to know that he will not win the war in ukraine. he doesn t believe that right now. he needs to know that we will
i think the bigger issue for me is whether or not we should start replacing the mig 29s, they will give the ukrainians, replace them with f16s so they can put more aircraft into ukraine. secretary cohen, general heart link, a pleasure to speak to both of you, thank you so much. now, as if to really under score the stakes at play here, a 360 exclusive, new reporting that reveals the existence of a russian intelligence play book for undermining the government of another pro western country in eastern europe and bringing it back into moscow s sphere of influence, more from nick robinson. reporter: this is one face of russia s hybrid war to destabilize ukraine s tiny neighbor, maldover , an organize pro russian protest, by a parent
get will help. take a listen to the polish president making this announcement yesterday. translator: literally within the next few days we will hand over as far as i can remember four aircraft to ukraine in full working order. the rest are being prepared, serviced and will be successfully handed over. now the prime minister of slovakia announce the that his small eastern european country will be supplying, in his words, about 13 of these mig 29s to ukraine as well. keep in mind, these planes are probably all more than 20 years old. they re designed from the soviet union from the 1970s and 80s. some of them are not in working order. they re also symbolic. this is a war of attrition. whoever can last the longest will arguably win this terrible
pilot level to harass them. this is a calculated move. right? because drones are providing exquit sit intelligence every single day to the ukrainian forces on what where are the russians and what are they preparing to do. they are the ukrainians eyes and other capacities out there doing the same thing. it s vital to the ukrainians. and, look it, the real punch in the eye to the russians here is give the ukrainians the a tack kim s. give them the f-16s could what poland is doing with the mig 29s. energize nato full capacity. what is happening on the ground, brian, is the offensive that started many weeks ago. not with a mask combined arms attack but smaller attacks, nonetheless, this is their often that has their moible blizzed forces in it. it has culminated this week because of too many casualties and a lack of forward momentum. the opportunity for the ukrainians to retake territory