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reliable. they have to do some things. they have to show us they re going to respect the rule of law, be transparent and unbundle their midstream gas company. all of those things were part of him coming in. and i think that s completely and absolutely legitimate and what we re supposed to be doing, bringing the private sector in. american companies, american gas, and showing europe that you can count on us and you aren t going to be held hostage by russian gas. bill: you said a week ago you were told to consult with rudy giuliani on matters with ukraine. were you okay with that? you know, i was. i ve known rudy since 2008. i endorsed him for president in 2008. i worked on i trusted him. bill: you didn t think it was odd when you were told to do that? as a governor of texas i use

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