york times bestseller i, alone, can fix it. andrew weissmann joins us, former fbi general counsel, former senior member of the mueller probe, he was known as the pitbull of the mueller team, and he is also a beloved dog dad and a law professor at nyu. gentlemen, i have lots of questions for you, but there is no way either if you are going first because carol, carol leonnig was the first to bring this story today that the secrecy secret service despite having deleted those text messages because of a system of great, they can t seem to get them back. can you please explain this to us, carol? it s a bit of a mess, as i think i ve said a couple of times to you, privately. the secret service decided months before, and that is true, what s secretary mayorkas said earlier, decided months before january 2021 they were going to do an upgrade of their cell phones. in the midst of, perhaps, the most traumatic and chaotic, historic month in any
chad campbell, the former minority leader of the arizona house, chad campbell says arizona is in the midst of, quote, a nonviolent overthrow in some ways. it s subtle and not in people s face because it s not happening with weapons, but it s still a complete overthrow of democracy. they re trying to disenfranchise everyone who is not older white guys. and i harken back to what lieutenant colonel vindman said earlier in the show. if we want right to matter, we have to make it matter. and this is not right what s happening in state after state in this country. it s an attempted overthrow of our democracy. and i m beginning to wonder, joe, and i m curious what you think, because you ve been around nearly as long as i ve been around. we have many potential aggressors aiming at our democracy, our way of life, the covid illness. the virus is perhaps the most prominent.
level of any potential charges. is that how you see it? that s fair, that s a fair analogy. another way to think about it is that because of the gravity of what we re in the midst of, to proceed with a degree of caution and assemble the facts is a good first step for a white house to say, you know, we re not going to hand over something just because you want it. that s reasonable. to say that the whole thing is unconstitutional and to start using words that ordinarily don t belong on national television, that s really not a responsible way of taking care of this faithfully executed inquiry. the republicans are refusing to answer whether there is anything wrong with a country interfering in u.s. elections. however, u.s. senator lindsey graham wants to call rudy giuliani to testify before the
quote, ask why they are there. if you don t speak english, you have the right to have an interpreter. you have the right to remain silent. you have entitle d to speak to a lawyer. local aclu chapters and immigrants rights groups are blasting out hotlines to call if you are confronted by federal agents. the national aclu filed a preemptive lawsuit, attempting to ensure that any immigrants that are rounded up by i.c.e. are afforded a hearing before being sdeported. but i mean, this is a multifront thing. that same aclu is also in the midst of, right now, legally completely destroying the trump administration, officially, as of today, in what has just been a debacle from the very beginning, with the trump administration trying to recast and rejigger the u.s. census in a way that appears to be designed to undercut immigrants and latino communities specifically. the trump administration lost this in lower federal courts.
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