people. middle clools class workers. there is no thing as a free lunch. this idea that death panels are being so mean here. it s a ridiculous argument. when fdr passed social security, who were the poorest people in america? demographics-wise, the elderly. they are now the wealthiest. and children now are more children in poverty than any other age. so these are choices that we have to make. we don t make them. the problem is that everything else you do in your life i would pediatric and worry now in the holiday season, we re all going to go shopping. you will decide whether to boy this because it costs this much or that because it costs that much. health care is the one thing for more reasons people shouldn t have to make decisions based on what it will cost them. so then you need to find a way to make those decisions. i think that s one of the great mistakes is separating the 43 market from decisions that are made in health care. i ve given a lot of examples.