defense. lisa rubin is back with us so his team says that he wil decide mid trial whether or no he will show up. talk to me about that as a legal strategy it s an odd legal strategy, particularly when the judg ordered both parties did tel them by a certain date whether they will show up. that order is really rooted in a legitimate concern ove security and traffic and peopl of new york from judge luk kaplan of the southern distric of new york, who is overseeing the trial. when trump says, i had not decided yet, and i want to tel you the jury that i am excused i am concerned about the peopl of new york, he still would no answer the judges order, telling him that by april 20th which was last thursday, he ha to say, yes or no, he still ha not given him a straight answer on that point, what is your impression of the precious dutch team trump made on the stage? team trump is an evolving team, let s start there. this case has been through b my count, at least fou different teams of lawy
threatened as a result. the point earlier that the prosecution didn t have good facts on their side, what did you mean by that? this was a case arguably shouldn t have been brought in the first place. easy to criticize the prosecution. i take a different view. what s scary, i am biased as a criminal defense attorney, what scares me, this appears to be a case with the prosecution as it unfolded may have learned that uh-oh, this isn t the case we thought it was. and the problem with our system is that there isn t a way for prosecutors to reevaluate, save face, say maybe this isn t a case any more. it is a testament to how well the prosecutors did with bad facts that they took this to a jury and the jury deliberated for three days on a case that as we can see was a case of self defense. even the provocation argument which would have negated self defense, which they only developed mid trial, even that argument got them to a jury. the challenge in our criminal
make do with just part of jennifer s story. the judge would not allow her face to be filmed in court as she told the jury about her visit from michiel just days before mark stover disappeared, when he talked about a job he was supposed to do. and then there was her meeting with him on the 28th of october not long after that trespassing incident when the police officer pulled him over. jennifer said he looked a little frumpy, and what was that on his jeans? there was a rusty reddish stain on his right knee. to me it looked like blood. i just said, it looks like you have a dirty knee there. and he took his finger and he touched it. and he said, yeah. but most startling in jennifer s testimony, all those things she claims he said, that he was doing a job and something went wrong. that he wanted to sterilize his car and his fears about what would happen if the cops questioned him. something that was not planned. and he said, if there is a trial, it s not going to be good. all v
about him. there was nothing in him that was malicious or vindictive. and perhaps to answer them? a surprising an extremely unusual strategy. in mid trial, john henri brown, brought his client to see us, here on the outskirts of little mount vernon. michael oakes, before even talking to the jury, would make his case here. preparation for his own testimony? yes, probably. but also a wild bombshell of a story, and audacious claim. coming up. i went and i got shot. and i won. i know that i will not be standing on the side of my children s graves and people aren t going to be patting man the back and saying there s nothing you could ve done. when dateline continues. continues continues
my name. there s a 50-50 shot of getting questioned. if he gets questioned he s guaranteed a trial and if he gets a trial there is no one that s gonna stick up for him and he s pretty much going to prison and he said looking at felony 10 to 15 years. so big trouble, he told jennifer. there was evasive action to take, work to be done. he was really concerned about getting pulled over with the things in his vehicle. um, he wanted to get them home and get them sterilized. and he said if anyone sees this now, i m going in right away. going in, meaning he would be arrested right away he felt? right. and if all that wasn t incriminating enough, here was the capper. jennifer told police the story of how their marriage fell apart. it happened in spring of 2008, said jennifer. then-husband michiel told her about a phone call from someone named john. he told me that there was a potential job coming up that he