him that my personal viewpoint was that the electoral college had met, which is the system that our country is set under to elect a president and vice president, and i believed at that point that the means for him to pursue litigation was probably closed. and you recall what his response, if any, was. he disagreed. secretary of labor, jean scalia, the son of late justice scalia, explain to trump in mid december the situation clearly. so, i put a call into the president. i made a call on the 13th, we spoke, i believe, on the 14th. in which i conveyed to him that i thought that it was time for him to acknowledge that president biden had prevailed in the election. but