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young women who suffered at her hands, and whose lives she destroyed. i hope that today is not the end, but rather another step in justice being served. maxwell cannot act alone, others must be held accountable. i have faith they will be. she was convicted on five counts including sex trafficking of a minor. she could be facing up to 65 years in prison. her attorney saying they will appeal these charges. poppy. sonya, thank you very much to you and your team for the reporting. out front now, michelle hagan, former san francisco assistant district attorney and former child abuse prosecutor. and elie honig, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. thank you, both, very much. this is huge in terms of trying to find accountability and and some form of justice here for these women who were girls at the time. elie, maxwell was found guilty on five of six counts. 40 hours of deliberation. 16 questions from the jury. what do you make of the decision? well, po
this was not a two-person operation. this was not just jeffrey epstein and ghislaine maxwell. there were plenty of other people allegedly court according to public accusations, according to civil lawsuits that have been filed. people who were part of this ring, people who sexually abused minors, that s been alleged. and i think prosecutors have a real obligation to dig all the way down to the bottom, and bring anyone else who may have been part of this to justice. i agree. those people that enabled this. right. who are the other powerful people out there? michelle hagan, elie honig, thank you both very much. out front next, former president trump makes an endorsement but then threatens to take it away. we will tell you what his conditions are. and vladimir putin and joe biden have a phone call set for tomorrow. why did the russian president initiate the call? we will talk about it.
i wonder what you make of that, given that the the most serious count that carries up to 40 years in prison sex trafficking of a minor she was found guilty on? yeah. so, those two counts, poppy, relate to the same testimony from the same victim. and i think the jury just shows how careful they were. they may have had some problem with whether there was technically enticement or versus technically transporting. there was some inconsistency as to those specific elements in this trial. but again, it shows me the jury didn t just sort of sweep the table and say all guilty, all not guilty and when this case is on appeal and it will be appealed, as a prosecutor, you want to be able to say to the court of appeals look, the jury was really careful here, they were very selective about what they did. michelle, the defense and very thorough. and the defense, michelle, argued that that maxwell was being scapegoated for epstein s actions. i wonder, as someone who has stood up