president trump, who knows, and we ll see what happens. let s bring in tonight s panel, kimberly atkins, michaelger son, and doug cornell. kimberly right after the president finished, my ep and i both had two different interpretations of which trump we saw. the guy wants to dig in and a guy with an exit ramp. one of us saw one more dug in, one of us saw one desperate for an exit ramp. i saw someone who was pretty dug in. he seemed to actually be enjoying himself at this press conference where he was doing his normal free wheeling thing and it seems to me that as long as he has this shutdown battle over the wall, it gives him the platform to keep talking about the wall, to keep focus on the wall. as soon as the government is back up and running, that goes away. so that s really a disincentive for him to move on this at all, and at the same time, the democrats have taken over the house are just as