increase legal immigration. will that stop people from crossing the border illegally? certainly the evidence doesn t suggest it when legal immigration was much lower in the 50 s and 60 s, illegal immigration was much lower as legal immigration has grown to the 70 s, 80 s, 90 s and beyond illegal immigration went up with it because it created more networks of families. for example, in the 1980s we had amnesty for illegal immigrants and legal immigration was 500,000 a year. then, legal immigration doubled and so has illegal immigration. i want to get, this michael. what you are saying you don t want more illegal immigration. we are not until we change the quotes. 15 to 20 years to bring certain family relatives. we pride ourselves. you are suggesting that the family in honduras or family in mexico isn t going to cross the border because it might take five years
in the unresolved problem segment tonight, chaos at the border. according to the washington times, the department of homeland security saw a surge in illegal immigrant families crossing the southern border in july. increase has taken officials by surprise and reverses a recent decline in illegal border crossings. jing us now from washington to analyze, steven camerota of the senator of immigration studies and here in studio, um congratulation attorney and former federal prosecutor michael wiles. michael, i will start with you because you are in studio. always advantage to start here. surge in july. you know, if you watch enough conservative television, we predicted a big surge. in fact, was there ever a decline? never a decline. always an increase. if you don t stop a problem, if you have a leak, it will continue until you function it. with all the talk and banter, all the politicians on both sides of the aisle, congress has not fixed our broken system. the quotas where
their hearing. in other words, their hearing to see if they actually have an asylum claim. they don t have a valid asylum claim. they want to come for a better life and live here. that s why they come. if they know they have their kid with them they can come across. we will let them go into the united states. that s breaking the law. even if they break their kid. i know that s not the policy right now. none the less, michael, they are breaking the law bringing the kid. if the child is born here that s a different story. child is born in the united states they are a citizen. have you people now looking at all kinds of vantage points. in my office and i m opening up now in los angeles and if you look at all the border states, you know, you are seeing people that are basically coming. who do you represent? we represent companies, diplomats. what do they want to do. bring people in to america. you want to give them green cards. give people the right to work here to help thi
their hearing. in other words, their hearing to see if they actually have an asylum claim. they don t have a valid asylum claim. they want to come for a better life and live here. that s why they come. if they know they have their kid with them they can come across. we will let them go into the united states. that s breaking the law. even if they break their kid. i know that s not the policy right now. none the less, michael, they are breaking the law bringing the kid. if the child is born here that s a different story. child is born in the united states they are a citizen. have you people now looking at all kinds of vantage points. in my office and i m opening up now in los angeles and if you look at all the border states, you know, you are seeing people that are basically coming. who do you represent? we represent companies, diplomats. what do they want to do. bring people in to america. you want to give them green cards. give people the right to work here to help thi