he even scowled during his arraignment. his aide and co-defendant walt nauta appeared with him in court. nauta not entering a plea to the six counts he faces because he did not have a local attorney. let s go now to cnn anchor and chief correspondent kaitlan collins who s in miami. trump is calling this one of the saddest days in the history of the country. it is a sad day, though, i m not sure in the same way he means it. give us your take. reporter: yeah, jake, and i think what you re seeing with that comment that trump posted as he was on his way here to this courthouse for that arraignment and the many others that he has posted online also shows, you know, not just what we ve been talking about here today which is the legal strategy and what that s going to look like, but the political strategy that you were seeing the president use when it comes to this visit and how they are going to be fund-raising off of it and using it as, of course, he tries to make his way throug
we had to respond to it without knowing what their arguments were. when we went into the hearing, we made our arguments and then we had to leave the room for the government to respond, came back, and mr. trusty, would you like to reply to what they just said. you know, which we never saw. and then even judge howell s order, half of that looks like, you know, the exxon valdez oil slick where it was all blacked out. right. so we really don t i have no idea what their reasoning was at the time, whether their reasoning matched what they found or whether it was, you know, something that was just, you know, a shot in the dark. i don t know. but it s something that in relitigating it now, both sides will be able to see what each other is saying. is there yeah, pretty big and successful shot in the dark, if so. tim parlatori, let s go back to our panel which includes michael
sherwin? sure. hold on one sec, we are having an issue with your microphone, let me go to you elie, not your fault, michael. what do you think, elie, how likely is this? i pulled out the old federal sentencing guidelines and i arrived at the same number mr. sloman did. if you run the numbers here, it s not going to be a 400 year case. forget about the maximums, it comes out to 8 to 12 years depending on some of the wrinkles. now, the federal sentencing guide lines are not mandatory, so the judge has to consult with them, they re quite influential, and i think it s likely that a judge would go down from that number, but i don t see any universe where if this case results in a conviction of donald trump where a judge sentences him to something short of prison. it s possible, but i think even if a judge gives him a break, you re still looking at prison. really, you think he d go to prison? i do. and i think it s a huge difference between this and the manhattan case. in manhattan,
37, and that could have a definite impact upon the length of this trial, which i think is going to extend well into 2024 stwl so indictments come in all shapes and sizes. i ve seen indictments more detailed than this and longer than this. we used to do it sometimes, but particularly as michael said when you want to serve notice to the public and let the public know what s going on. when this goes to a jury, every one of these counts stands on its own. so it s not 37 guilties or 37 not guilties, you could have a split verdict. michael is right, every one of them is going to have to be deliberated on separately. the the last point i want to make, there s a lot of questions about will walt nauta flip. they don t need him. they have walt nauta s texts, emails, that s admissible evidence. you don t need him as a witness. if he does flip, wonderful, but they ve made clear we don t need him. jamie. i just have found that the this indictment is a damning indictment by all counts, if you
historic indictment is just starting. let s bring back cnn s senior legal analyst elie honig, former acting attorney for the district of columbia, michael sherwin, and in florida former u.s. attorney for the southern district of florida, jeffrey slowman. let me start with you. one of the things that druch is raising money off of is they re trying to throw me in jail for 400 years, we hear that from his supporters. how likely do you think let s assume that mr. trump is actually convicted of these 37 charges. do you actually think that he would go to jail theoretically? i do. i think the sentencing guidelines dictate serious sentences here. a quick calculation of them, they are in the neighborhood of more than ten years, so i definitely unless a judge varies downward, in this district most judges follow the sentencing guidelines. i think he you know, he is in line for a jail term. what do you think, michael