some of the rural counties with a vote, speed in here some of this real litigation. that s just the reality. i some of these indicted are saying i was listening to advice. and the other part is that everyone doesn t disagree that they did this stuff. it s on twitter, it s on the news, it s on video, they are just saying it wasn t illegal. that s right. because they thought they were moving forward with something that was right. we ll see what the jury decides. and if and when that happens it could be long time for now. thank you both for being with us. our two resident georgians michael moore and jeff duncan. up next the fbi is now involved in the state of georgia after the grand jurors who voted to indict donald trump there earlier this week are now
know the situation well, michael more, and jeff duncan, the former lieutenant governor, and a key witness in this case. what do you make when you look at this board, this is your home state, you know lot of those faces? it s not surprising really at all, and i think they are using this idea of an unindicted coconspirators to put historian for some context on it. also let s look prosecutor reach a little deeper into the hole of the enterprise and pull the noose a little tighter around the group. it s a viable tool, it also helps keep cooperators in witnesses islamic is they recognize if they do try to do something against the story, against what they told under a foursome point, they can end up on the opposite side of the side of trump. it s a good tool, and i m not surprised to see these people. when you think it could be potentially used to flip other country sure. and see what looks like for these 30 people. burt jones, he s the current
this natn, and who ultimately corrupted by it. any turn they could ve stopped and said, iss, enough this is going too far. didn t know better.e, perh most of them did know better. they were desperately trying to cling onto power after knowing they lost the election. nobody spoke, up no into the right thing, and that s why where they are today. we talked about this last night, michael, the courthouse put a document online earlier in the day. they now come out with another explanation, saying it was some sort of a sample that was being done as a test run. does that make sense to you? i think there s coordination that happens between a.d.a. s office and a clerk s office. i wouldn t be surprised if they said, look, this is coming down tonight. we believe the grand jury votes, be ready. this will help you get your feels field in the computer, that type of thing. it was a mistake. it was a serious mistake. the reason, was it was like turning on the gas pump onto the fires of the people w
willis grand jury. michael, does it make sense illegally that mark meadows, because of his position in the federal government at the time would want to be in federal court? it s a good motion to make. i don t blame him for making it. basically, there s a removal statute that allows somebody who is charged with a crime in a state court, if they were a federal official involved, federal duty is to ask the case be transferred. there is a limited number of defendants you might see with that opportunity. but the former president asked if it weren t for mark meadows. i expect this from trump all along. really, when you look at the
coming out? perhaps the most notable, if not the most damning phone calls that meadows a race for president trump was with georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger. mister president, everyone is on the line. this is mark meadows, chief of staff, we are all aware. when trump told raffensperger this. look, all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. because we won the state. meadiw s role in that phone call took a second charge a violation of oath by a public officer. jake tapper, cnn, washington. joining us now, cnn political commentator alyssa communications writer in the previous administration. also former u.s. attorney for the middle district of georgia, michael more. cnn political commentator and former obama special advisor van jones, and democratic state senator jim jordan, who testified before the fani