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instead gave him time on the nightly news. correct me if i m wrong, didn t he also write that despite him finding ellsberg and getting this big get, there wasn t any news made by cronkite in that interview? you re right. good point. and that s an excellent point. cronkite went to all of that to get to ellsberg but didn t ask any hardball questions, he kind of just let ellsberg talk, and so of course certainly the nixon white house was angry at cronkite, but many people said why was cronkite doing softball questions to daniel ellsberg, very good memory. well, i remember when i was writing my book and i had a little chapter about walter cronkite. michael, i want to talk to you about your last interview with daniel ellsberg, you focused a lot on whistle blowing and the difference between whistle blowing and leaking and how dangerous it s become to try and straddle that line. what did he tell you?
nixon tapes doug brinkley, and columnist for foreign policy magazine, michael hersch, who did an interview with him just the other day. let s talk about the legacy of daniel ellsberg, what did it mean for him to leak the pentagon papers in 1971? i m sorry to hear of his death. he s a major figure as he rightfully said, probably the most renowned whistleblower in u.s. history. when he released in 71, with 7,000 classified pages that really documented particularly the malfeasance of the lyndon johnson administration, all of the lies and distortions that lbj and mcnamara made about vietnam were in those papers. nixon got furious about this leak, and it led to the famous first amendment fight of the new york times versus the
it s more necessary than ever to uncover state secrets but it s more dangerous than ever. and he knew what he was doing, he knew the risks he was taking, right, michael? he did. he told me, and what his family said was his last interview in may that he really believed he was going to spend the rest of his life in prison facing 12 felony counts, and he could have done so had it not been for the sort of, you know, oddity of watergate. and he felt throughout his wife, doug, that the government wasn t being truthful with the american public, not just through the pentagon papers, not just what happened at the vietnam war, that democrats and republicans alike were in favor of whatever would help them domestically, and that sometimes did include worse? absolutely. he was just really denounced america s interventions around the globe. he became a dissident, a critic