Hello, and welcome to the programme which brings together some of the uks leading specialist journalists with the foreign correspondents based here who file their stories with the dateline london. Joining us from home Stefanie Bolzen is uk and ireland correspondent for germanys die welt. Michael goldfarb presents the frdh podcast thats the first rough draft of history. And, boy, what history is he reporting on now. And with me again at a safe distance the bbcs chief international correspondent, lyse doucet. Grounded she may be by covid 19, but her curiosity about the world remains undiminished. Well begin here in the uk. Its week two of the great stay at home, and the statistics suggest its working dramatic falls in journeys on public transport, little activity at airports, quieter roads. This, though, is the calm before the storm. Because of the time lag between becoming infected and showing signs, those who are dying now were infected before the lockdown. Epidemiologists think were t
Hello and welcome to dateline london. Im carrie gracie. This week new normal or old normal . In the United States, President Trump wants the old normal back, though he likes to call it . Actual normal . In china, president xi is already reaching for new normal, one which includes much tighter control over the people of hong kong. Meanwhile what kind of normal do the rest of us want and what kind can we have against the ever present risk of a pandemic whose next move we cant predict . My guests on socially distanced screens political commentator Yasmin Alibhai brown, Michael Goldfarb of the podcast first rough draft of history, and here in the studio, observing the two metre rule, the bbcs chief International Correspondent lyse doucet. Welcome to you all. Old normal or new normal, well come to that in a moment, but the World Health Organisation keeps telling governments itll be hard to achieve any kind of normal without good testing. Five months into this pandemic, what have we learned
Now on bbc news, dateline london. Hello and welcome to dateline london. Im carrie gracie. This week new normal or old normal . In the United States, President Trump wants the old normal back, though he likes to call it . Actual normal . In china, president xi is already reaching for new normal, one which includes much tighter control over the people of hong kong. Meanwhile what kind of normal do the rest of us want and what kind can we have against the ever present risk of a pandemic whose next move we can . T predict . My guests on socially distanced screens political commentator Yasmin Alibhai brown, Michael Goldfarb of the podcast first rough draft of history, and here in the studio, observing the two metre rule, the bbcs chief International Correspondent lyse doucet. Welcome to you all. Old normal or new normal, well come to that in a moment, but the World Health Organisation keeps telling governments itll be hard to achieve any kind of normal without good testing. Five months into
Good testing. Every country seems to be reporting it in its own way. So, thatis be reporting it in its own way. So, that is a problem but what we can say is that the earlier people Start Testing, government Start Testing, citizens, the better the results have been. So if you look back into february, australia and new zealand we re february, australia and new zealand were testing very heavily and they quickly reached the conclusion they had to go into lockdown and they are well past the first phase of this pandemic. South korea, which had experience of, you know, coronavirus type things with sars was in position to Start Testing straightaway. You know, the us has, in terms volume, a lot of tests, but they have not been as effective in both isolating where things. Where the disease is and two, creating a sense of knowledge. So we see that while in new york, which has been the epicentre of the world for a month, it is time down there but spiking up in the middle of nowhere and they do occ
And, later today, the pope will return to st. Peters basilica to celebrate mass. Now on bbc news, its time for dateline. Welcome to dateline london. Im carrie gracie. And this week new normal or old normal . In the United States, President Trump wants the old normal back, though he likes to call it actual normal. In china, president xi is already reaching for a new normal, one which includes much tighter control over the people of hong kong. Meanwhile, what kind of normal do the rest of us want and what kind can we have against the ever present risk of a pandemic whose next move we cannot predict . My guests on socially distanced screens political commentator Yasmin Alibhai brown, and Michael Goldfarb of the podcast first rough draft of history. And here in the studio, observing the two metre rule, the bbcs chief International Correspondent lyse doucet. Welcome to you all. Now, old normal, new normal, i started there. Well come to it in a moment, but first i want to talk about testing