campbell, a former fbi supervisory special agent. you ve conducted some of these interviews like michael flynn sat through. now we re seeing more specifically the notes from the fbi agent who did that interview. what s your takeaway? so this is the response from special counsel robert mueller to a memo that flynn has actually submitted recently to the court. it s important to understand that because this is essentially a rebuttal of claims flynn is making. he indicated he is cooperating with authorities, which is true, but then he did something else that was really bizarre in the sense that he took a page from president trump s play book and tried to attack investigators saying i was unfairly set up here, unfairly targeted. he indicated that the fbi had failed to tell him that lying was against the law and that he
concerned about, which were his contacts with the russians. so there s no trickery here. there s nothing like that. so i think the fact that they ve released these documents is good to set the record straight. and i think they had to do it at this point, ana, because this was becoming a thing, especially in the right-wing media. look, we reported this back in early 2017, after flynn had been interview. we reported it at the time on cnn that the agents who interviewed him didn t think that he was lying. they certainly did not he did not come across as intentionally lying. it didn t look like something they could prosecute. it wasn t until later on that they took a second look and decided that this was something that he could be prosecuted for. we still don t know the full circumstances of that, by the way. i think that is still yet to be revealed by the special counsel. but something happened in between this first interview in early 2017 and then the time that robert mueller is appo
condolences. then what michael flynn tells the fbi is you probably know what was said. so clearly there he knew that they already were very much aware of his conversations. the big question has always been and still to this day is why did michael flynn lie? we still don t have a full explanation. all the documents filed from the special counsel to his attorney, no one as ever explained why he lied. we know why michael cohen has lied. because he wanted to protect the president. others have lied to protect the president. we still to this day do not know why michael flynn lied. what s so interesting to me is the need for this addition an fi d additional fooiling aal fi mueller s team. why do you think they took this shot against flynn when they were building him up as a model
sitting down with the other fbi sitting down interviewing michael flynn. it was important enough that tell me what took place, tell me about the circumstances, walk me through what happened that day soup to nuts to when the people the reason it s important, if you look at the time frame, the calendar, obvious live michael flyof obvio obviously michael flynn was on the hook for lying. it was key at that point where you probably had flynn saying, looking i m being treated unfairly, there are circumstances about this interview that are unfair. this signals that robert mueller wanted to hear directly from the agent that did the interview, get it locked in on paper and that s what we re reading today. thank you for your inside. we ll take a quick and be right back. ally discovered.
in what was just filed, his actual interview, what s called a 302 that the fired fbi eight peter strzok filled out after he interviewed michael flynn, we learned that peter strzok was interviewed by fbi agents separately about his interaction with michael flynn. and how he describes michael flynn s demeanor at the time of the interview is quite interesting. he said throughout the interview flynn had a very sure demeanor, did not give any indicators of deception. he did not parse his words or hesitate in any of his answers. he only hedged once, which they documented, the fbi agents, peter strzok documented in his 302. strzok said he and this other fbi agent who interviewed flynn had the impression at the time that flynn was not lying or did not think he was lying. flynn struck strzok, the fbi agent as bright but not