12 new yorkers have affirmed the principle that no one in america, not even a former president, is above the law. a jury unanimously found donald trump guilty on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records. the criminal case hinged on the testimony and evidence of the trials narrator, trumps fixer turned foe, michael cohen. he joins us here now. he is the author of disloyal, the true story of a former personal attorney to president donald j trump and how trump weaponized the u.s. department of justice against his critics. is also the host of the mea pope and political podcast. i am so busy. i want to get some context here. when this all began for you in many respects, at that time trump is in the white house, you had gotten caught up in this thing on your way to prison , how, having this, full-circle and watching what occurred this week, do you appreciate that role? that narration? i thought it was very interesting and important for you to frame this chapter in this c
a biscuit for the new york times , she has been inside the courtroom for the bulk of this trial and for the past four weekends. we are on the other side. you all heard our interview with michael cohen, i wonder what your reaction is? i have to say, of all the people who have taken the hits over the years, michael is up there. to watch him on the stand and see what he was put through they kept trying to baby him and kept trying to provoke him and he withstood it he was cool, calm and collected. between him and stormy daniels, who was also another person they try to provoke and debate and get a reaction out of, i m going to don my cap. both of them in the courtroom and outside of the courtroom are part of the reason we are here yet they have stood up but they have gone on the record and they called these crimes out. their testimony helped seal
this deal along with david pecker , who, in my opinion was the star witness. he has been put through, michael, as he was telling everyone, he went to jail. david pecker and, has a no prosecution agreement. of all the people that took the hits and stood up for it, my respect to michael and stormy. i think there are a lot of aspects in this case, the twists and turns were very important. the coach wrote about how this could have been a case built
he was telling us. does that make him a ninja turtle? i guess so. the way this was set up with david pecker being the first witness and then parlaying that into stormy daniels into these witnesses who were there. the publishers, the books who were the people who were reading from donald trump s books and hanging in on his own words, he talks about signing every check. by the time we got to michael cohen, the story had been lined up. also witnesses were acknowledging that michael cohen mac was complicated that he had lied. in the jury s mind, a lot of these faults had been spoken about and that was just brilliant on how they were able