happens when it stands united. which is also something that biden is trying to show here. okay, oren liebermann, thank you. joining us now is michael bosser, a global affairs analyst and the former spokesperson for the organization for security and cooperation in europe. michael, thanks so much for being here. you probably just heard the president s comments there. how do you describe the state of play right now, this hour between the tension of russia and ukraine? good to be with you, alisyn. i had to pinch myself this morning listen to the u.n. security council session. this is cold war rhetoric, a lot of tit-for-tat, and it doesn t get any better than this. but when the russians show no sign of relenting. their accusing the west of pumping ukraine with weapons, of destabilization and denying that they have 100,000 troops on the the border. so clear think ere is a deep di.
analyst dr. leana wen, the author of life lines, a doctor s journey in a fight for public health. also joining us is infectious disease epidemiologist is cara. welcome back back to you both. jessica, let me start with you. you re not calling for a show to be canceled or even for the episodes with some of the questionable information to be pulled. you asked, as part of this group, for clear and public policy to moderate misinformation on spotify platform. does this satisfy that in. unfortunately it doesn t fully satisfy. and i think that the important thing to consider here is that these are plans to initiate these content advisories, we have yet to see them roll out. we have heard anecdotes of several thousand podcast episodes being removed from other violations and we ve not seen the list of those episodes or the reasons why they were
but i think the fact that both sides are showing up and the ukrainian negotiations said last week that the russians seem to be very enthusiastic tf thing. as much as they re committing war crimes or violating international humanitarian law by shelling heavily populated centers, hospitals, churches, mosques, you name it, there is, i guess, a part of the russian government that says to themselves, we have to have talks continuing. but,y sad to see that even though these negotiated corridors happen, the russians go ahead and have shelled them as well. it makes people taking part in these humanitarian evacuations very, very nervous to say the least. michael, i know that you think that thus far the united nations have handled russia with
endure. anderson, thank you very much. we ll check back with you. let s discuss these investments are michael bosser, a former spokesperson for the organization for security and cooperation in europe. he s also a senior fellow at the atlantic council and he joins us from lviv. as he has been for many years now, we re happy to see you. do you feel the onslaught getting closer to lviv now given that attack on the military base near there? oh, yeah, absolutely. this was after all in lviv, not that far from here and i poke to people who live on the outer edges and they felt the shock waves from those missiles as well as by the way, people on the polish side of the border. it was that close to the polish border. so, i mean, this was clearly a provocation from the russian side. alisyn, if i could pick up on something that clarissa said about the granularity of the meetings. in the past eight years, since