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said guest: national testiculate i said we would never have and because conservatives would be opposed to anything with the word national and the eritreans would be a testing it. but we ought to be able to come to some agreement about the common standards. the math is the same. you can read or you can t read and the problem without having national standards or common standards and this was a problem and no child left behind without getting too much in the weeds is when you look at each state set its own goals and standards host: it becomes a race to the bottom as they define. guest: since the enactment of that legislation and the expenditure of a lot of the federal money, 18 states have lowered their standards and this isn t what it was about. crusco that is why you need common standards. by the way, it seems you also need, and testing. guest: you do need, and testing and that is perfectly fine. when i was the secretary of education i beefed up the so-called natio