in america where unless we get leaders elected to do small things we have to continue living with this over and over. can t stop everyone no matter what laws are passed. can t stop every one but we can stop more than we do and do a better job and we can, you know, be smarter, recognize these people when they pop up. maybe change some things, maybe get an evaluation, mental evaluations. you know? restraining orders and mental defective cases, some states enacted that. i think those will be very effective. we should have that across the country. some people s going to slip through. but others won t. and then also, get the message out you won t be infamous. everybody s going to forget you. you re nobody and will be nobody if you do the cowardly shootings. always our steady hand, always our steady thought. jim cavanaugh, been here hour
prove that holmes was insane at the time? remember, here in colorado it is the prosecution s burden to prove holmes was sane at the time of the shoots but the defense did just wrap up its side of the case last week and they did present two mental health experts whom they had asked to do mental evaluations of holmes and who told the jurors they believed he was insane at the time of the crime. one of those experts was a specialist in schizophrenia and she was last to take the stand for the defense and talked about how holmes was suffering from a delusional system, she said, that really made him believe he had to carry out a mission to kill to increase his own self-worth. she said he was detached from reality. he didn t have control of his actions and was unable to understand morally what was right from wrong. the defense put together a string of videos showing holmes in jail after he has been arrested in which he acted in a very bizarre manner.
those are the victims we re hearing are in critical and continue to be in critical condition. shockingly, the doctor said that every single one of the kids stabbed was stabbed in the torso. there was no accidentally slashing. they were all penetrating wounds. that shows a state of mind right there. not knowledge the front, to the chest, lower abdomen, but also the back, ashleigh, and we re hearing that the sophomore that is in custody, 16 years old, a student at that high school, had wounds himself on his hands. so what does that tell you about the violent situation of others trying to get that knife away from him? with your legal background, as an attorney and also someone who has covered so many of these cases, what is this young man going through right now? mental evaluations, arrest, bookings, fingerprinting, photographing? are his parents nearby? what s the process? we heard early on today he was being questioned by authorities. that may cease rather quickly when he gets a
do they wait and play that at the last second? harris i anticipate he will plead guilty to all 11 counts. it doesn t do him good to plead guilty because he needs to negotiate. insanity is affirmative defense, so the burden is on him to prove it. he will have to bring in, similar to the colorado shootings, bring in all kinds of experts to do all kinds of mental evaluations. i think there is some ground for that and that is where the defense has to go. they don t really have anything else. harris: how are courts looking at the insanity plea these days? i remember a time you would have to have a high burden of proof. are we at that same point or has it changed? it is lower burden. that s right. it s a lower burden. the burden shifts to the defendant. he has to prove meets the legal standard of insanity but it s a lower burden than the state is going to have when they have to prove the elements of the crime. harris: new topic real quickly and has to do with a bikini
groups. other mental health experts worry about equating mental illness with violence and say people should be encouraged to speak treatment, instead of adding extra complications that could potentially prevent someone from seeking mental health treatment. harris: i have to think people watching this may be scratching their heads cause we always have to sign those of white house are not in the military, that hppa document, which means that certain things about us cannot be shared, like mental evaluations. yeah, that s true. you see these privacy laws are just tremendous. you have a stack like this when you go to the doctor. but this effort trying to aimed at preventing what happened, for example, at newtown. eric shawn, thank you. afghan s marching against american military members after years of war and trying to protect the people there from the taliban. a protest in afghanistan s capital today and it could signal growing dissent for u.s. special forces stationed in a key