senior national corn for time magazine. you covered the 2011 shutdown. i m curious what you think is different about, well, not the shutdown. what you think is different about that fight and this one. nothing. i mean it s really this is the same. the same as the lame duck fight in 2010 and the first fight over a government shutdown in 2011. the default fight later in 2011. the fiscal cliff, the sequesterer that became the obama quester. these are all one after another. republicans deciding that they are going to try to hole obama hostage, to try to get usually spending cuts or now they ve turned to getting rid of obamacare. they say we don t want the government to shut down. we cope want to go over the cliff. we don t want the sequester.
end. i agree with what she was saying. from the republican side this is pretty much similar. these their own political consideration where they need to be showing maximum opposition to president obama at all times and obamacare. sometimes it is hard to tell whether they re angry and about the obama and the care. once you celebrate you ve done this great thing of them. there was all this reporting about a house vote of. and we got them saying, this is crazy. we re going to wake up in the morning like teenagers that stole thor california 25 people vote against it. it shows it like, what they re tag identified of is a primary challenge. no matter what they say to reporters. ? & the political incentives. we have one party as you talked about in your last segment, had a it s accepted austerity levels of funding, far below anything
this being a clean cr. meaning the funding levels that have been agreed to by the senate without these provisions that would try to destroy obamacare or screw over congressional staff. here is the 2014 discretionary funding ask in president obama s original budget. $1.2 trillion. the ask for that am of money in the ryan budget is $967 billion. and what you will see is that the current level of funding in the clean cr that democrats are voting for and calling for as a solution is much, much, much, much closer to the 2014 ryan budget that was of course the bet for more democrats and progressives anywhere. do you think people understand that? no. in fact, i feel like i serve in the nation s largest kindergarten. the only thing is the kindergarteners here have access to our checkbook. it is ridiculous that we re at
sense. tell me what you think of this. my sense of this is that actually, in a weird way, the longer the shutdown goes, if this happens in the next 33 minutes, it appears it will, the longer that goes, the better the odds of avoiding a real nasty situation. some kind of negotiated settlement comes out with a raise to the debt ceiling as well. i agree with that. i want to say, 33 minutes from now also obamacare starts. which i can t believe that s not the top story. to be clear, shutting down government won t stop that. it overshadows whatever glitches they might have taken note of. i think this is an important point. i ve been very concerned about the debt ceiling. the shutdown will come out with a debt limit increase. what has happened is that republicans have burned through all the negotiating positions. what boehner wanted to do was save delaying obamacare for the debt ceiling.
greta: and reb members of congress are a bit hot under the collar, firing off a strong message to the nation s governors, telling th the govers not to implement the changes. do governors agree? louisiana governor bobby jindal joins us. governor scott of florida told us he won t begin developing these changes. i m curious, louisiana, your state, do you intend to begin developing these exchanges? if not, why not? absolutely not. we declared a year ago we were not going to do the exchanges. we re not expanding our medicaid program. this is a huge mistake for the country, certainly for the state of louisiana. we need to do everything we can to repeal obamacare. greta, let s step back and realize what they re doing. in the middle of the greatest recession since the great depression, the president is creating another entitlement program. we can t afford the ones we got. $1.76 trillion in new spending,