we can t hide behind a wall. brian: are we hiding behind a wall. not at all we are not hiding behind a wall. we are constructing physical barriers backed up by technology and, of course, the great men and women customs and border protection to simply safeguard our southern border. it s not going to impede in any way the legal crossing of millions of people a week. mexicans and all other nationalities, americans going south and normal commercial traffic will move. but we re nod hiding behind a wall. you can t defend anything by hiding behind something. steve: you mentioned ice agents a moment ago. there is senator ron johnson i think two days ago mentioned that the obama administration knowingly let in members of ms-13. that super violent gang from central america. steve, i don t know anything about that.can tell yoe 20th of january that would never happen. i don t know if it happened before. but it would never happen on my watch. steve: how? what s the big change?