it wouldn t be right for me to comment on what s happened at the bbc since i ve left they ve made their decision, they should discuss that in the way that they want to. but from my memory well, not my memory, from my knowledge of how we discussed these things at the bbc there were lots and lots of different groups. we listened respectfully and tried to make well, we did make decisions with the best of intentions, listening to all the relevant opinions. we ve heard a lot about divisions in newsrooms on many issues, notjust trans rights, climate change activism, black lives matter, donald trump and his actions. fred unsworth, the outgoing bbc director of news, is reported to have told staff at a meeting last week, you ll hear things you don t personally like and see things you don t like. that s what the bbc is, and you have to get used to that. kamal, you ve got this very young team ofjournalists how are you handling those sorts of divisions, if they exist?
thinks, and to carry on in that manner. we are nowhere near the scale and size, though, where we would be in those types of conversations. and the bbc obviously was in those types of conversations, you were editorial director until this february were you part of the decision to sign up to the programme, for the bbc? no, i was not. i m sure many people listening will be aware, bbc s nolan investigates podcast raised questions about whether being part of the scheme damaged the bbc s impartiality. what do you make of the bbc pulling out? we always had a very good conversations with lots and lots of different groups, and it s absolutely what the bbc should do. it wouldn t be right for me to comment on what s happened at the bbc since i ve left they ve made their decision, they should discuss that in the way that they want to. but from my memory well, not my memory, from my knowledge of how we discussed these things at the bbc there were lots and lots of different groups.