the russians. crowd strike also said that ukrainian military was hacked by the russians and that report turned out to be discredited. i thought it was interesting that came up so early in the conversation attributed to the president. sandra: john roberts. i don t think this is going to put to rest the democratic calls for impeachment. one of the reasons is, too, as he was just pointing out the idea that there are dashes there. the memorandum of the telephone conversation is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion. the text in the document records the notes and wrecklations and policy staff to memorial eyes the conversation as it takes place. these are contemporaneous notes. the democrats will argue it is not an exact transcript of a recording. so what is it in this that we re not seeing.