on in young people s lives that is causing this to be on the rise. so i do think it s very scary, but as you said, it isn t it s not really an everyday occurrence, so i try to keep that in the forefront of my mind. it s not really likely to happen, but it is scary to think about that it happens at all. yes, refreshing to know it is not a super regular occurrence. it s not just murder. we need a little levity here. melissa, in this week s episode, you broke down the gardner museum heist back in 1990. let s play some of that. the thieves were inside the museum for 81 minutes, and they stole 13 pieces of art worth hundreds of millions of dollars. it appears, though, the thieves really didn t know what they were doing and they had no real plan for which pieces to steal. for example, they left the most valuable painting in the museum alone and took lesser items that were really close by it. to this day, none of the pieces of art that were stolen have been recovered. although, auth
able to track some of the art s movement at different times, but they have still never been able to actually locate it. one of my favorite museums, by the way. so melissa, tell us, how do your listeners react to these less gruesome sort of palate cleanser episodes you do? you know, it goes all over the spectrum. some people really just love to hear murder stories, and some people like us appreciate these kind of stories where it just kind of is a palate cleanser and you have something else. it s a great story. it s super interesting, but nobody dies. that s the way we always say, you know, hey, we re listening to a story this week, nobody dies. it s exciting for us. we enjoy that too. we all do. and mandy, tell me, how did both of you connect over your mutual fascination with these true crime stories? i think melissa and i both kind of had started our love for true crime in general, watching things like dateline, forensic
files, all of those things on tv, from a younger age. and as we kind of became friends and we were adults then, we realized that we shared that similar interest, that we both were interested in the topic of true crime. and so she came to me one day and said hey, i know this might sound crazy to you, but would you consider trying to start a podcast with me where we can share some of these stories. i just said okay, and here we are today, still doing the podcast. so little different from it plot of only murders in the building on hulu, which is a fantastic show, by the way. melissa, what are the stories over time that have stuck with you the most? the stories i m always drawn to are the stories with forgiveness and some sort of redemption. and one that really sticks out to me is the story of michael morton. back in the 80s, he was convicted of murdering his wife and sentenced to life in prison. and he, after 25 years, dna finally exonerates him, and he s
john thought that she was joking, of course, but then adam and vulessa start talking about actual ways to murder vicky, and things quickly snowballed from there. after several tries, adam did pierce vicky s neck with a needle, and he injected the syringe into her. adam and vulessa then held vicky down while they waited for the injection to work, but it never did. vicky was still very much alive and still fighting back. adam stabbed vicky two more times and tried to break her neck. hours later, the murderous teens used bleach and towels to clean up the kitchen and adam put vicky s body in a trash can he found in vicky s garage. joining me new are co-hosts of the moms and murder podcast, melissa richie and mandy espy. thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. melissa, you said these are the stories that keep you up at night, when parents are kill bide their own children. what was it that most struck you about this vicky robinson case? this is a story where the mom
able to reunite with his family. he s found faith while in prison, and now he works to help innocent people who are in prison. he works with the innocence project. i love stories like that. i wish, you know, there was more. we try to tell as many as we can because, you know, we love to see that. we want that. we want the exoneration. we want those things. so i think it s important for us to share them, and those are the ones i m really drawn to. forgiveness and redemption. a good note to close on. melissa and mandy, thank you both. appreciate your time with us. you can tune in to moms and murder wherever you get your podcast. new episodes drop every tuesday. coming up in our next hour, new revelations coming out of the january 6th committee today. up next, i m going to talk to committee member congresswoman zoe lofgren. you are surrounded by people