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about the courts, you have to have something called standing, which is that you are supposed to say that you have had some form of pap panel injury. and i think what melissa has walked us through is exactly the point of there was no case, there was no controversy, there was even any stated injury because she didn t have the business. and this did come up in lower courts. and adf kept changing its filings to try to assert that had had something there including months after it filed its original complaint, kind of updating it to show this alleged request that appears to be false, so i think at the end of the day, you know, you said it right, joy, when you said this isn t supposed to happen. you aren t supposed to be able to get to the supreme court without any factual case that demonstrates that you should be able to be in court in the first place. and on one level, if, in fact,

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they could spin it however they want, the person whose name is on the inquiry, stewart, he didn t make it. there is no genuine same-sex wedding inquiry behind this and she testified in court that there was. just to be clear, melissa, did you talk to stewart? yes. yes, i found stewart s contact information in the course of going through court filings. and when i spoke with him, i expected him to say, you know, oh, god, i ve heard from a million reporters and here is another one. but he hadn t. no one had called him before. he had no knowledge that his name appeared in this court filing. he had actually heard of the case because by the time i called him, like last tuesday, the case had been argued at the supreme court and was in the news a little bit the end of the last year. so he knew about it in the context of his work as a designer. that is the other kind of ridiculous thing here. he s a designer. why would he be trying to hire another designer to make this

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MSNBC The ReidOut June 4, 2024 20:09:00

lot of time texting with him and talking with him and my sense is there is no reason on earth that he would have placed this inquiry. and also to be very, very clear, i don t know for sure, it may come out that he did. even if that is the case, what adf is claiming, that this is a genuine inquiry, that is still false. okay. so i want to establish all of that, mia, before i ask how this is not a legal deeply unethical, and we ll come back to adf in a moment. but this sounds like a completely specious case. how could it come before the supreme court and how could they go through oral arguments and this entire case and that never come up? you know, melissa, thanks for that reporting because when you bring a case, you re supposed to have what is called a case or controversy. that means something has to actually have happened to you. it is part of what we think

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